19:35:41 From Matthew Fuston : San Diego, CA 19:36:06 From Karlie Nelson : Rancho Cucamonga, California 19:36:14 From Jose Reyna : Texas 19:36:28 From Carl Coffey : lots of California folks here tonight! 19:36:28 From Marc Wall : Marc Wall, Redlands, CA 19:36:30 From Jose Reyna : Kingsville, TX 19:36:45 From Audri Heffernan : Spokane, Washington 19:37:00 From Candice Cromwell : Riverside, CA 19:37:52 From Carl Coffey : any other SLPs in the audience? 19:38:06 From Matthew Fuston : I am an SLP 19:38:19 From Jennifer Scharf : Yes! 19:38:28 From Alan Mendoza : I am applying to SLP grad school this fall. 19:38:37 From Carl Coffey : awesome - glad you all are here tonight! 19:39:07 From Marc Wall : Good to see CBU! 19:39:58 From Matthew Hamburger : hello professor Wall! 19:40:43 From Carl Coffey : SLP solidarity! 🎉 19:41:18 From Douglas Scott : Fellow Houstonian! 19:41:24 From Carl Coffey To Douglas Scott(privately) : I didn't realize Derek was from Houston! 19:41:45 From Kelly Cahill : SLP here! 19:41:45 From Karlie Nelson : Hi professor Wall! 19:42:32 From Douglas Scott To Carl Coffey(privately) : Yep! I met Derek in the very early days before he became a SLP. he attended a Houston Chapter meeting when he was a student at Univ. of Houston. 19:43:25 From Carl Coffey To Douglas Scott(privately) : ah okay - very cool 19:43:47 From Douglas Scott To Carl Coffey(privately) : He has grown a lot in confidence and assertiveness from those days I am extremely proud of Dr. Daniels. 19:44:55 From Carl Coffey To Douglas Scott(privately) : I've only chatted with Derek a couple of times but I really like him. Who don't you know from the stuttering community, Doug 🤣 19:52:29 From Carl Coffey : my heart is racing just thinking about it... 19:54:56 From Jer Sifuentes : i wouldn’t care of they’re the CEO of the universe, i would’ve advocated for myself in a heartbeat. 19:55:35 From Carl Coffey : i think i would've been so shocked at that moment, like "did this really just happen…?” 😳 19:57:13 From Carl Coffey To John Ontiveros(privately) : great conversation so far! well done moderating, my friend 👏🏾 20:00:00 From Eric Swartz : Thanks Tim! I feel that way some days too 20:00:32 From sharon arslanian : Thanks, that’s very helpful. 20:00:55 From Derek Daniels (he/him) : Individualized Education Plan (IEP) 20:03:27 From Carl Coffey : sounds like trial by fire! 20:08:42 From Matthew Fuston : I effing loved that story! 20:08:59 From sharon arslanian : Wow! 20:09:24 From Douglas Scott : I love it Tim! Thank you. 20:10:38 From John Ontiveros To Carl Coffey(privately) : Thank you! 20:10:40 From Carl Coffey : hmmm so interesting 20:12:09 From Douglas Scott : Very cool. I am learning so much and enjoying this so much. 20:12:35 From Carl Coffey : seems like a lot of projecting going on from the parents trying to place their fears onto others 20:15:51 From Douglas Scott : Wow Elaine! that had to be so difficult. thanks for sharing 20:16:03 From Amber Hamilton : wow. Thank you for sharing that Elaine. 20:16:03 From Holly Nover : Thank you for sharing Elaine! That has been my fear but it hasn't happened yet... 20:18:12 From Isha Lodhi : I had a question that I would appreciate if the panel can touch on at the end if we have time. I was curious if being a PWS affects your beliefs as to what the causes/reasons for stuttering is as an SLP For instance, earlier it was believed that trauma and PTSD are a factor for stuttering, but that understanding is changing currently. As a PWS, do you have moments where you distance yourself from some popular beliefs about stuttering in the SLP community. Thank you for being here, and for sharing your time and experiences!! 20:18:55 From Rudhan Ghimire : Hi SLP graduate student here, I had 3 clients in my university clinic so far. I disclose that I am a PWS on the initial days with my client and their parents ,and it has worked fine till date. 2 of the clients I had were infant language and I did not have to do much talking, I stuttered pretty good with my third client but he was a fluency client so his parents were co-operating about it. I have a feeling in the back of my mind that some parents will hesitate to have their kids being in a clinic with an SLP who stutters. I am very open about my stutter but I am worried that I might not get enough clinic hours to graduate. How did you guys manage it through grad school? Any advice is welcome. 20:21:42 From Holly Nover : Rudhan - Are you saying that you think you won't get enough clinic hours to graduate because of your stuttering and parents hesitating to have their child work with you? 20:24:11 From Rudhan Ghimire : Yes, I have not had that issue yet. Just a feeling in the back of my head 20:24:19 From Travis A : Rudhan, I had a similar fear in grad school of parents not wanting me to work with their children. Your school/professors/clinic advisors all want the best for you and will do whatever they can to make sure you complete your clinic hours. Perhaps you may come across a parent who prefers a different clinician, but your advisors should find a new client for you and have your back 20:24:54 From Timothy Flynn : Great point Derek. Not all acceptance looks the same. 20:26:01 From Carl Coffey : really sage advice, Derek - everyone is on their own path 20:27:32 From Douglas Scott : Can a PWS achieve their individual goal without some form of acceptance? 20:27:34 From Carl Coffey : makes me wonder how my journey would've been different as a kid if i had an SLP who stuttered 20:28:04 From sharon arslanian : How great for the girls to be able to meet with you together and support one another. 20:28:22 From Holly Nover : Rudhan - I agree with Travis. Your clinic supervisors should support you and parents that ask for a different clinician are missing out. As a SLP that stutters, you have lifelong experiences as a person with a communication difference and that's more than SLP's that do not stutter. :) 20:30:11 From Rudhan Ghimire : Thanks y’all. 20:31:30 From Jennifer Scharf : Douglas - need some self-acceptance to self-advocate 20:33:30 From Natalie England : Timothy, thank you for sharing that … distinguishing between reading ability and fearing the word. If that is brought up in the school setting, with teachers, parents, etc., how do you explain what is happening? How to observe more accurately? 20:33:33 From Cora Campbell : thats a cool story 20:33:52 From sharon arslanian : That was an awesome story 20:34:23 From Holly Nover : Rudhan - Many people who stutter have become SLP's and you will too! If you have challenges as a student SLP clinician, you will have your clinic supervisors to help you navigate the challenges and that will make a stronger SLP. You got this! The PWS SLP tribe has your back! 20:35:10 From Timothy Flynn : Hi Natalie, I think a large part is misinformation of stuttering and knowing what to look for. Most people don't realize what "covert" is or that stuttering is more than just repetitions. I recognized that she stuttered as I saw her blocking - and had to explain to the team what blocking was along with her parents. After working with the student, she became a bit more comfortable reading out loud and we all sat and had her read a more grade appropriate text. The special education teacher who also worked with her was shocked. 20:35:16 From Cora Campbell : great point! 20:35:41 From Timothy Flynn : I've had similar situations where just working and spreading information about stuttering so reading specialists, special education teachers etc. know what to look for. Avoidance beahviors, secondaries, etc. 20:35:58 From Douglas Scott : Good point, Elaine! I had not thought of that advantage. 20:36:15 From Matthew Hamburger : Elaine stated that most SLP's have one or two children who stutter, and she has four. My question for everyone is when there is a child who comes in that stutters are SLP's who stutter more likely to pick that child for therapy? And are parents more accepting of you to work with their child since both the child and the SLP stutters? 20:38:40 From Douglas Scott : Full disclosure! I have a special love for SLPWS. My SLP was a person who stuttered. It gave me piece of mind and reassurance because I knew the SLPWS knew exactly what I was going through and dealing with. 20:39:26 From Holly Nover : Matthew - I think some children who are covert children who stutter are not identified as a PWS if the SLP is not familiar with covert stuttering. 20:39:29 From Jennifer Scharf : Timothy - great point! Never underestimate the power of passion and empathy :) 20:39:58 From Douglas Scott : At the same time, I do know several fluent SLPs who are really good in helping PWS. 20:40:25 From Matthew Hamburger : Holly- oh okay thank you very much! 20:40:34 From Cora Campbell : when pushing into classrooms and teaching, do you use any speech techniques? Also, do you use any speech techniques while at work? And do you still feel bad about stuttering while working in the speech therapy world? Having to model “good speech?” 20:40:36 From Holly Nover : I agree Doug! There are great SLP's who do not stutter! 20:41:02 From Elisa Valle : As a person who stutters what is something you believe a person who doesn’t stutter takes for granted? 20:41:25 From Jo Boult (she/her) : What did your mentors in your graduate programs do to support your success? Or hinder it? 20:42:02 From Madison Sparks : It seems like kids who stutter often get missed at school and teachers rarely refer for it. How can we help as school SLPs? 20:42:02 From Isha Lodhi : Thank you so much! 20:42:57 From Holly Nover : Madison - As a school SLP, I always share emails about stuttering on ISAD and in May for Better Speech/Hearing month. 20:44:04 From John Ontiveros To Carl Coffey(privately) : Hey I wanted to plug our mock interviews at the end, can you post the our mock interview link in the chat? 20:44:13 From Carl Coffey To John Ontiveros(privately) : you got it 20:48:35 From Alan Mendoza : Do you think that bilingual/multilingual individuals only stutter less in their first language after therapy/acceptance? Personally, during my journey of acceptance, I stuttered less and more comfortably in English. However, I still stutter more frequently and less comfortably in Spanish, although I consider myself highly fluent. 20:48:35 From Natalie England : Thank you so much. Important to share. 20:48:36 From Karlie Nelson : Such a great point! 20:49:09 From Holly Nover : ASHA has resources on their website to support NOT using oral reading fluency measurements for CWS that I often have handy as back up if needed. 20:49:26 From Timothy Flynn : Very true Holly. 20:50:49 From Carl Coffey : I wish we had Angela Medina here - she is my go-to bilingualism expert! 20:51:02 From John Ontiveros : Right! 20:52:04 From Douglas Scott : Rosie Brown also may some insights on this. she is bilingual 20:52:30 From Jose Reyna : I was thinking the same thing. Rosie Brown . 20:52:55 From Derek Daniels (he/him) : Yes, Tim! It can also be due to the linguistic features of the language 20:53:34 From sharon arslanian : Spanish is a very quickly spoken language! Could that be a factor? 20:53:35 From Jo Boult (she/her) : Alan, Stefanie Becerril from Lamar University specializes in bilingual stuttering FYI. Good contact. 20:55:02 From Derek Daniels (he/him) : Angela Medina and County Byrd have done nice research on bilingual stuttering (English-Spanish) 20:55:05 From Jer Sifuentes : Sharon, most definitely. also possibly cuz Mexican culture is more likely to judge than American culture (crazy, right?) 20:55:56 From Carl Coffey : Alan - I just texted Angela and she said feel free to email her; she'd be happy to chat more about bilingualism! her email is angela@westutter.org 20:56:00 From Jer Sifuentes : i stutter more in Spanish than English, also cuz i’m not as fluent in Spanish as i am in English 20:56:42 From Alan Mendoza To Carl Coffey(privately) : Thank you! 20:57:19 From Carl Coffey To Alan Mendoza(privately) : you got it, my friend! 20:58:02 From Elisa Valle : Thank you to all the speakers, this meeting has been very insightful and confirms my decision in becoming an SLP! :) 20:58:17 From Carl Coffey : Elisa, yay! 🎉🙌🏾 20:58:19 From John Ontiveros : Great to hear Elisa!! 20:59:22 From Matthew Fuston : would the panel be willing to share their email or whatever contact info they are comfortable with? 20:59:49 From Derek Daniels (he/him) : Yes: Derek Daniels (dedaniels@wayne.edu) 21:00:42 From Carl Coffey : thanks everyone for sticking around with us - it's been a great conversation! 21:00:55 From Elaine Robin-Kruijd : esseattle@hotmail.com 21:01:03 From Carl Coffey : when the recording is ready, you will receive an email with the link to view and share with others! 21:01:31 From Holly Nover : I'm thinking about proposing a NSA conference workshop in Fort Lauderdale for PWS who are SLP's. Thoughts? 21:01:33 From Timothy Flynn : My email is twflynn1@gmail.com Please reach out with any questions or comments 21:01:50 From Carl Coffey : that sounds like a great idea, Holly 21:01:52 From Jose Reyna : Nice to see everyone again. 21:01:53 From sharon arslanian : YES!! my son (who I did not understand about stuttering) got kicked out of spanish class for answering a question with an absurd answer (taco) because he couldn't really say the right answer. For years he substiutued and I had no idea why I had him evaluated at school and no one even mentioned stuttering. Thanks, Everyone!! 21:01:55 From Carolyn Belle : Thank you all so much for your insightful contributions to this discussion. I really appreciate your sharing your experiences. 21:01:58 From Natalie England : Thanks to everyone. Take care. 21:02:01 From Douglas Scott : Big thanks to Elaine, Derek, and Tim for presenting this highly enlightened information. I appreciate very much the special contributions you are making to our community and to the kids, and adults you work with. 21:02:02 From Jose Reyna : Take care 21:02:04 From Audri Heffernan : Thank you for sharing!! 21:02:05 From Matthew Fuston : Thank you so much guys! 21:02:07 From Karlie Nelson : Thank you so much to all speakers. So interesting! Have a great night everyone. 21:02:07 From Matthew Hamburger : thank you everyone! 21:02:12 From Elyse Fishkin : Such valuable information and wonderful personal sharing. 21:02:13 From Holly Nover : Great panel! 21:02:16 From Marc Wall : Thank you so much! 21:02:19 From Jennifer Scharf : This was wonderful and so informative. Thank you so much! 21:02:26 From Eric Swartz : Excellent presentation! You all rock!!! 21:02:34 From Kyle Pelkey : Thank you everyone for your time and vulnerability!! Much appreciated! 21:02:35 From Candice Cromwell : Thank you for sharing, such a great panel! 21:02:41 From Sindhura Maale : Thank you so much everyone! Awesome topics! 21:02:43 From Carl Coffey : https://westutter.org/careersuccess/mock-interviews/ 21:03:03 From Amber Hamilton : Thank you all so much !! Such a wonderful panel, I appreciate your time 21:03:29 From Jo Boult (she/her) : Thank you, panelists! 21:03:46 From Carl Coffey : thanks Derek, Elaine, Tim, and John - great conversation! 21:04:02 From Holly Nover To Carl Coffey(privately) : So good Carl! 21:04:08 From Derek Daniels (he/him) : Thank you John, Carl, and NSA! 21:04:16 From Carl Coffey To Holly Nover(privately) : thanks for joining tonight! great to see you! 21:04:34 From Elaine Robin-Kruijd : Thank you for organizing. I appreciate all of you. 21:04:38 From Carl Coffey : East Coast peeps, thanks for rocking with us! appreciate all y'all 21:04:47 From sharon arslanian : Thanks so much! 21:04:49 From Elyse Fishkin : Thank you to panelists and host. 21:04:49 From Douglas Scott : Ciao! 21:04:50 From Holly Nover To Carl Coffey(privately) : Same to you! we stutter at work is so valuable to the NSA!